[Michlib-l] First Amendment Audit

Fri Jan 14 13:25:08 EST 2022

Well said, Betty. Thank you for your reasoned words.

The amount of name calling, belly aching, and misunderstanding of “public” in public library on this post is outrageous for our profession.

Phillip Kwik

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From: Michlib-l <michlib-l-bounces at mcls.org> On Behalf Of Betty Adams via Michlib-l
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Subject: Re: [Michlib-l] First Amendment Audit

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Thoughts you can choose to digest or ignore:

Being a public institution, consent is not needed to be filmed. Being a public servant, consent is not needed to be filmed while serving the public. Being a public servant, these audits should be taken seriously, as they are (at the core) being done by concerned patrons. If you are part of a consortium, they may be your patrons even if they are not from your city or generally considered community, as you are part of a collective. These should not be something to be feared, nor fought. The money we use is paid by taxes of citizens, and it is their right to inquire about policies, how the library is governed, the collection, and if the staff is aware of the rights of citizens in their libraries. Use this as an opportunity to listen to those who (it appears) you may have a difference of opinion from, rather than an attack on the library or you/your staff. Yes, these citizens sometimes try to "catch" you being scared or intimidated, or ignorant to their rights, because when these first started years ago, many facilities were. Get ahead of the auditors and take time to understand their purpose, review if your collection needs around constitutional/governmental materials and train staff on the rights of patrons/citizens in a public space. Heck, you could even have a program on citizen rights in public and private spaces and can show the auditors that you are aware of their concerns and are addressing them.

I personally would interact with an auditor, to know how the library is perceived by those who have concerns over their rights in a time when rights are being reduced by governing bodies. Why not request to sit and have a conversation with them rather than shy away? They want to be heard, same as everyone else with concerns, so, why not listen? By being negative toward them (even if it's only in internal emails), you are being negative toward an entire demographic that your library may be excluding (or ridiculing), based on perception alone, which is counterintuitive to an institution that wishes to have full community support and usage.

Now, I would like to say, nothing is ever absolute, and those who had a negative experience with a hostile audit, is not the norm (as showcased in this thread and across the internet). Do not assume your auditor will be hostile, just as you wouldn't assume the intention of any other patron entering your facility.

Just some thoughts from someone who's watched MANY audit videos, from across the country, and someone who can recognize that they have a right to do what they do. (If being filmed is an issue for you, as it is with me, politely request not to have your face included. Use honey, not vinegar.)

Public school audits is a great question, personally, I haven't seen any done.

Betty

On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 10:05 AM Turbok, Joseph via Michlib-l <michlib-l at mcls.org<mailto:michlib-l at mcls.org>> wrote:
I am not that familiar with Youtube flagging but can these videos possibly be flagged by the people within them for either harassment or lack of consent to be filmed?

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Matt,

They request that book because if library staff tries to argue with them or kick them out, the “auditor” can point out that we are ignorant of the Constitution yet have the book on our shelves. Having suffered through some of the YouTube messages, they seem to take a special delight in mentioning this. Also, they audit us done under the guise of “educating” us about individuals rights.

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"Members only" videos and a PayPal link.  I wonder how much this jamoke makes from this scam?

On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 9:54 AM Sherry Martin via Michlib-l <michlib-l at mcls.org<mailto:michlib-l at mcls.org>> wrote:
I Googled  "FRICN MEDIA" (I'm assuming this stands for Freaking Media) and found their YouTube channel. This isn't a professional organization. It's a couple of Michigan citizens checking up on various government agencies.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYl7s-1p4ba4dgcAZidNFGw

On their About tab:
DescriptionWarning. Im controversial politically, religiously, and I'm also an Auditor. So if you're offended easily or closed minded. This is not the channel for you. Just a heads up. email vividimagetats420 at gmail.com<mailto:vividimagetats420 at gmail.com> paypal.me/jswoodworks<http://paypal.me/jswoodworks> Cash app $FRICNMEDIA

The world we live in!

Sherry Martin

On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 9:40 AM SF Director Account via Michlib-l <michlib-l at mcls.org<mailto:michlib-l at mcls.org>> wrote:
Good morning,

I have never heard of this. Why is the U.S. Constitution for Dummies a book they would ask about? Is there a process or procedure for how libraries should act or react to this group? You mention being respectful but anything else?

Any assistance in this for me to inform my staff would very helpful.

Matt Lubbers-Moore

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Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2022 1:28:09 PM
Subject: [Michlib-l] First Amendment Audit

Just had our first First Amendment Audit.  It went very well, actually.

I spotted them before they came in so we could gather ourselves for a minute - make sure no patron names were on screens, and the reserve shelf had no names showing, etc.
Two people (man and woman) came in with cameras.  I welcomed them from the circ desk as I would anyone else (maybe a little more enthusiastically).  The man asked if we had the U.S. Constitution for Dummies and we talked about that a little.

I offered to show them around, but they just wanted to walk around and film.  We only had one patron in here at the time, so when the man started that way, I just told him that he was welcome to film anywhere in the public areas as long as he didn't interfere with other patrons' enjoyment of the library.

We were respectful and, in turn, they were respectful, so it went just fine.  They were here for about 15 minutes.  I won't lie - it felt like longer.

I know that this man, FRICN MEDIA, has lots of 1st Amendment Audit videos on YouTube,  many of which turned confrontational.  We were welcoming, forthcoming, and really boring.  Score!

Like Kate Andrade said, "It's not if, it's when".  We might as well be prepared.

Have a great day!
Perri

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