[Michlib-l] TAB Volunteers and YESA
Eric Magness-Eubank
eric.magnesseubank at gmail.com
Wed Apr 30 15:39:02 EDT 2025
Clare, the situation we are looking at is managing students who come in for
10 to 30 hours of community service in order to complete graduation
requirements or National Honor Society requirements for the school
district. As this volunteering is meant to be part of the student's
educational program, having some sort of agreement doesn't seem out of the
question to me. And the really fun ones are, "I need to complete this by
next week".
Cheers, Eric
On Wed, Apr 30, 2025 at 3:28 PM Membiela, Clare (MDE) <
MembielaC at michigan.gov> wrote:
> I also believe this would be a contracting process for EACH minor
> volunteering.
>
>
>
> Clare
>
>
>
> Clare D. Membiela, MLS, J.D.
>
> Library Law Consultant
>
> Library of Michigan
>
> MembielaC at michigan.gov
>
> 517-335-8132
>
>
>
> *The research and resources above are for informational purposes only and
> not for the purpose of providing legal advice. You should contact your
> attorney to obtain advice with respect to any particular issue or problem.*
>
>
>
> “the State may not, consistently with the spirit of the First Amendment,
> contract the spectrum of available knowledge.” *Griswold v. Connecticut,
> 381 U.S. 479, 482 (1965).*
>
>
>
> *[image: A picture containing text, room, gear, gambling house
> AI-generated content may be incorrect.]*
>
> Acknowledge the incredible strength of students’ multilingual abilities.
> Seek the Michigan Seal of Biliteracy
> <https://www.michigan.gov/mde/services/flexible-learning/michigan-seal-of-biliteracy>
> for graduating seniors.
>
>
>
> [image: Michigan.gov/Vote logo Description automatically generated]
> <https://mvic.sos.state.mi.us/>
>
> Get personalized voter information on early voting and other topics at
> Michigan.gov/Vote <https://mvic.sos.state.mi.us/>.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Eric Magness-Eubank <eric.magnesseubank at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 30, 2025 2:53 PM
> *To:* Don Priest <dpriest at southgate.lib.mi.us>
> *Cc:* Membiela, Clare (MDE) <MembielaC at michigan.gov>; michlib-l <
> michlib-l at mcls.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [Michlib-l] TAB Volunteers and YESA
>
>
>
> *CAUTION: This is an External email. Please send suspicious emails to
> abuse at michigan.gov <abuse at michigan.gov>*
>
>
>
> Clare,
>
> I took a look at the FAQ sheet produced by LEO and saw a reference under
> item 19d about minors being
> exempt from the act when there's a valid cooperative agreement or
> work-based learning program in
> place between the employer and the school, with a copy of the executed
> agreement on file at the
> worksite.
> After reviewing the language in MCL 409.118, it seems to me that a work
> permit wouldn't be required for
> a student who is 14 or older, as long as such an agreement exists, federal
> regulations are followed, and
> the signed agreement is on file before the minor begins work.
>
> I'm assuming this would mean you could create a standing agreement with
> the school district for all of the students who wish to volunteer for the
> library?
>
> Eric Magness-Eubank
> Chesterfield Township Library
>
> 409.118 Exemption; minor 14 years of age employed under agreement or
> contract between
> employer and governing body of school district, public school academy, or
> nonpublic
> school.
> Sec. 18. This act does not apply to or prohibit the employment of a
> student minor 14 years of age or older
> by an employer if a written agreement or contract is entered into between
> the employer and the governing
> body of the school district, public school academy, or nonpublic school at
> which the minor is enrolled. The
> employment shall not be in violation of a federal statute or regulation
> and a signed copy of the agreement
> shall be on file in the place of employment before the minor begins
> employment.
> History: 1978, Act 90, Eff June 1, 1996, Act 438, Imd. Eff. Dec. 18, 1996.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 30, 2025 at 1:50 PM Don Priest via Michlib-l <
> michlib-l at mcls.org> wrote:
>
> Thank you, Clare, I appreciate the clarification, and links to further
> information. You learn something new every day (even if you wish you
> hadn't)!
>
>
>
> Donald Priest
> Director
> Southgate Veterans Memorial Library
> 14680 Dix-Toledo Rd.
> Southgate MI 48195
> 734-258-3002
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From: *"Clare Membiela" <MembielaC at michigan.gov>
> *To: *"Don Priest" <dpriest at southgate.lib.mi.us>
> *Cc: *"Jack Buck" <jbuck at richlandlibrary.org>, "michlib-l" <
> michlib-l at mcls.org>
> *Sent: *Wednesday, April 30, 2025 1:27:16 PM
> *Subject: *RE: [Michlib-l] TAB Volunteers and YESA
>
>
>
> Hello Don:
>
>
>
> You are exactly correct. It has long been the legal understanding that
> “volunteer services” are included within YESA. MCL 409.104(3)(b)
> https://www.legislature.mi.gov/Laws/MCL?objectName=mcl-409-104
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.legislature.mi.gov_Laws_MCL-3FobjectName-3Dmcl-2D409-2D104&d=DwMFAg&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=-VnIYX9Tid_FwaJ-4wkEtsGiayf038erslqThRZiqB4&m=sxBdy1pnHjm5ykigB56p6FxpaXq8ZDQCOTlRcz8W9t_jYQu3kFfmv-Tl7-9F_SaC&s=7JeMPX3E8kfhwGH6aW7eH7cM-9SKBjCnibvvWXxtASM&e=>
> . Most of the legal underpinnings of this understanding would appear to be
> in the language of MCL 409.102(c)
> https://www.legislature.mi.gov/Laws/MCL?objectName=mcl-409-102
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.legislature.mi.gov_Laws_MCL-3FobjectName-3Dmcl-2D409-2D102&d=DwMFAg&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=-VnIYX9Tid_FwaJ-4wkEtsGiayf038erslqThRZiqB4&m=sxBdy1pnHjm5ykigB56p6FxpaXq8ZDQCOTlRcz8W9t_jYQu3kFfmv-Tl7-9F_SaC&s=NwKmZeMfPwzCZ_MeDeXLS-P4zabz3JeobKLhVwtX5J8&e=>,
> which is the definition you mention. The definition uses the words
> “permit,”. etc., but there is also no indication that “employ” as defined
> is tied to “payment” or “wages” in this law. Additionally, the exception in
> MCL 409.104(3)(b) specifies a specific type of entity- which implies that
> all OTHER volunteering or “work without pay” would NOT be exempt from the
> requirements.
>
> It also should be noted that minors exempted from the work permit
> requirement for volunteering for 501(c)(3) non-profit corporations (such as
> charities, etc. – not libraries) WOULD be covered still by the other
> provisions of YESA.
>
>
>
> The Department of Labor and Economic Opportunity (LEO), the agency tasked
> with oversight of YESA reinforces the inclusion of volunteers:
>
>
> https://www.michigan.gov/leo/bureaus-agencies/ber/wage-and-hour/work-permits
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.michigan.gov_leo_bureaus-2Dagencies_ber_wage-2Dand-2Dhour_work-2Dpermits&d=DwMFAg&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=-VnIYX9Tid_FwaJ-4wkEtsGiayf038erslqThRZiqB4&m=sxBdy1pnHjm5ykigB56p6FxpaXq8ZDQCOTlRcz8W9t_jYQu3kFfmv-Tl7-9F_SaC&s=4quQlMR-f3i4CeTCAK_4pj3O_zqe9l8llr3rLTLRAH8&e=>
>
>
>
> I hope this is helpful!
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Clare
>
>
>
> Clare D. Membiela, MLS, J.D.
>
> Library Law Consultant
>
> Library of Michigan
>
> MembielaC at michigan.gov
>
> 517-335-8132
>
>
>
> *The research and resources above are for informational purposes only and
> not for the purpose of providing legal advice. You should contact your
> attorney to obtain advice with respect to any particular issue or problem.*
>
>
>
> “the State may not, consistently with the spirit of the First Amendment,
> contract the spectrum of available knowledge.” *Griswold v. Connecticut,
> 381 U.S. 479, 482 (1965).*
>
>
>
> *[image: A picture containing text, room, gear, gambling house
> AI-generated content may be incorrect.]*
>
> Acknowledge the incredible strength of students’ multilingual abilities.
> Seek the Michigan Seal of Biliteracy
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.michigan.gov_mde_services_flexible-2Dlearning_michigan-2Dseal-2Dof-2Dbiliteracy&d=DwMFAg&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=-VnIYX9Tid_FwaJ-4wkEtsGiayf038erslqThRZiqB4&m=sxBdy1pnHjm5ykigB56p6FxpaXq8ZDQCOTlRcz8W9t_jYQu3kFfmv-Tl7-9F_SaC&s=ELlsUnTj6p7aAKx4PjJN4obvxbHIWbqJ1_rXKK8Gp20&e=>
> for graduating seniors.
>
>
>
> [image: Michigan.gov/Vote logo Description automatically generated]
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mvic.sos.state.mi.us_&d=DwMFAg&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=-VnIYX9Tid_FwaJ-4wkEtsGiayf038erslqThRZiqB4&m=sxBdy1pnHjm5ykigB56p6FxpaXq8ZDQCOTlRcz8W9t_jYQu3kFfmv-Tl7-9F_SaC&s=aNYsqreYVd8jb2_oPS5AWFJ6Avt-yefFyLvUROKSJ5k&e=>
>
> Get personalized voter information on early voting and other topics at
> Michigan.gov/Vote
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mvic.sos.state.mi.us_&d=DwMFAg&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=-VnIYX9Tid_FwaJ-4wkEtsGiayf038erslqThRZiqB4&m=sxBdy1pnHjm5ykigB56p6FxpaXq8ZDQCOTlRcz8W9t_jYQu3kFfmv-Tl7-9F_SaC&s=aNYsqreYVd8jb2_oPS5AWFJ6Avt-yefFyLvUROKSJ5k&e=>
> .
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Don Priest <dpriest at southgate.lib.mi.us>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 30, 2025 9:33 AM
> *To:* Membiela, Clare (MDE) <MembielaC at michigan.gov>
> *Cc:* Jack Buck <jbuck at richlandlibrary.org>; michlib-l <michlib-l at mcls.org
> >
> *Subject:* Re: [Michlib-l] TAB Volunteers and YESA
>
>
>
> *CAUTION: This is an External email. Please send suspicious emails to
> abuse at michigan.gov <abuse at michigan.gov>*
>
>
>
> Clare,
>
>
>
> I'm a bit confused by this, because I'm not seeing any mention of
> volunteers in the wording of the act. Are volunteers included because of
> the wording in the definitions, *(c) "Employ" means engage, permit, or
> allow to work *?
>
>
>
> Donald Priest
> Director
> Southgate Veterans Memorial Library
> 14680 Dix-Toledo Rd.
> Southgate MI 48195
> 734-258-3002
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From: *"Membiela, Clare (MDE) via Michlib-l" <michlib-l at mcls.org>
> *To: *"Jack Buck" <jbuck at richlandlibrary.org>, "michlib-l" <
> michlib-l at mcls.org>
> *Sent: *Wednesday, April 30, 2025 8:59:23 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [Michlib-l] TAB Volunteers and YESA
>
>
>
> Hello Jack:
>
>
>
> I hope you are well!
>
>
>
> You are essentially correct- Public libraries may not permit a minor under
> 14 to volunteer or work, period.
>
> Teen Advisory boards would have to be reconfigured if they included minors
> aged 13 or under.
>
>
>
> The 501(c)(3) exemption is correct, but the requirements are nuanced, so
> be wary of having say, your Friends’ group “hire” or engage a minor for
> volunteer work so that minor can work in the library – this would likely be
> a problem UNLESS the volunteer was working solely for the Friends doing
> Friends activities and under the direction and supervision of a Friend.
>
>
>
> Libraries are almost never going to meet any of the exceptions for
> volunteers under 14.
>
>
>
> Minors aged 13 and under can participate in library programs that include
> activities that appear “volunteer” (ie.: putting together packages for
> unhoused patrons, etc.), but the library should not offer to certify
> “service hours” or “volunteer hours” for these patrons., as that would be
> essentially making that minor a “volunteer,” and acknowledging that the
> library is violating the act.
>
>
>
> The amended act can be found
> https://www.legislature.mi.gov/Laws/MCL?objectName=mcl-Act-90-of-1978
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.legislature.mi.gov_Laws_MCL-3FobjectName-3Dmcl-2DAct-2D90-2Dof-2D1978&d=DwMFAg&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=-VnIYX9Tid_FwaJ-4wkEtsGiayf038erslqThRZiqB4&m=LdT-XvUDWOuwwsywPiY1tREti3OKO7z5PNboIEi80KfdKx7r_2cnWC9dbwbrlCJs&s=v0WLVeFnKUWsv5Op97NyaWEEHK3rQC5J7zrwOkl6Mx8&e=>
>
>
>
> The work permit changed go into effect October 2, 2026. HOWEVER, the hours
> changes are already in effect as of April2, 2025.
>
>
>
> The previous language of the act also made it a violation of the act to
> hire or engage minors under 14 (unless the organization met one of the
> exemptions).
>
>
>
> If a library has a question, scenario, or policy they are uneasy about, it
> is best to consult the library’s attorney.
>
>
>
> I hope this is helpful!
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Clare
>
>
>
> Clare D. Membiela, MLS, J.D.
>
> Library Law Consultant
>
> Library of Michigan
>
> MembielaC at michigan.gov
>
> 517-335-8132
>
>
>
> *The research and resources above are for informational purposes only and
> not for the purpose of providing legal advice. You should contact your
> attorney to obtain advice with respect to any particular issue or problem.*
>
>
>
> “the State may not, consistently with the spirit of the First Amendment,
> contract the spectrum of available knowledge.” *Griswold v. Connecticut,
> 381 U.S. 479, 482 (1965).*
>
>
>
> *[image: A picture containing text, room, gear, gambling house
> AI-generated content may be incorrect.]*
>
> Acknowledge the incredible strength of students’ multilingual abilities.
> Seek the Michigan Seal of Biliteracy
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.michigan.gov_mde_services_flexible-2Dlearning_michigan-2Dseal-2Dof-2Dbiliteracy&d=DwMFAg&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=-VnIYX9Tid_FwaJ-4wkEtsGiayf038erslqThRZiqB4&m=LdT-XvUDWOuwwsywPiY1tREti3OKO7z5PNboIEi80KfdKx7r_2cnWC9dbwbrlCJs&s=-09Zv-SO5X6UG4Bh-OrXhwg5abW4Iwmgoopgwnds8ao&e=>
> for graduating seniors.
>
>
>
> [image: Michigan.gov/Vote logo Description automatically generated]
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mvic.sos.state.mi.us_&d=DwMFAg&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=-VnIYX9Tid_FwaJ-4wkEtsGiayf038erslqThRZiqB4&m=LdT-XvUDWOuwwsywPiY1tREti3OKO7z5PNboIEi80KfdKx7r_2cnWC9dbwbrlCJs&s=ip_-w4l0StMDaGJyfN0FGcbb9Xb0cVv4KmZ70pntCsk&e=>
>
> Get personalized voter information on early voting and other topics at
> Michigan.gov/Vote
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mvic.sos.state.mi.us_&d=DwMFAg&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=-VnIYX9Tid_FwaJ-4wkEtsGiayf038erslqThRZiqB4&m=LdT-XvUDWOuwwsywPiY1tREti3OKO7z5PNboIEi80KfdKx7r_2cnWC9dbwbrlCJs&s=ip_-w4l0StMDaGJyfN0FGcbb9Xb0cVv4KmZ70pntCsk&e=>
> .
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Michlib-l <michlib-l-bounces at mcls.org> *On Behalf Of *Jack Buck
> via Michlib-l
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 30, 2025 7:30 AM
> *To:* michlib-l at mcls.org
> *Subject:* [Michlib-l] TAB Volunteers and YESA
>
>
>
> *CAUTION: This is an External email. Please send suspicious emails to
> abuse at michigan.gov <abuse at michigan.gov>*
>
>
>
> Hello -
>
>
>
> I’m looking for clarification on the recent changes to Michigan’s Youth
> Employment Standards Act (YESA) and how they affect public library
> volunteer programs, particularly Teen Advisory Boards.
>
>
>
> From what I understand:
>
> - Minors aged 14 to 17 are required to obtain a work permit, including
> unpaid volunteer roles, unless the organization is a 501(c)(3) nonprofit.
> - Public libraries are considered government entities, not 501(c)(3)
> organizations, so the exemption does not apply to us.
> - Minors under age 14 are generally not allowed to volunteer, unless
> they meet one of the limited exceptions defined in state law (such as youth
> sports or farm work).
>
>
>
> If my interpretation is accurate, libraries will have to restructure TAB
> if they include 11-13 year olds.
>
>
>
> I’d appreciate hearing how your library is handling this.
>
>
>
> Thank you,
>
> Jack Buck
>
> Richland Community Library
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by
> *E.F.A. Project*
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.efa-2Dproject.org_&d=DwMFAg&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=-VnIYX9Tid_FwaJ-4wkEtsGiayf038erslqThRZiqB4&m=LdT-XvUDWOuwwsywPiY1tREti3OKO7z5PNboIEi80KfdKx7r_2cnWC9dbwbrlCJs&s=g1Fbu26Ir7164refpJeyGcJO4Hjp1jNWY-XKzrvHJGA&e=>,
> and is believed to be clean.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Michlib-l mailing list
> Michlib-l at mcls.org
>
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mail3.mcls.org_mailman_listinfo_michlib-2Dl&d=DwICAg&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=-VnIYX9Tid_FwaJ-4wkEtsGiayf038erslqThRZiqB4&m=LdT-XvUDWOuwwsywPiY1tREti3OKO7z5PNboIEi80KfdKx7r_2cnWC9dbwbrlCJs&s=NgsOWt64YYrKrpRR5gJW2UtpwJCAUtAWu-XUHb6KUOI&e=
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Michlib-l mailing list
> Michlib-l at mcls.org
> https://mail3.mcls.org/mailman/listinfo/michlib-l
>
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://mail3.mcls.org/pipermail/michlib-l/attachments/20250430/aaa6d4b3/attachment.html>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: image001.png
Type: image/png
Size: 46272 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <http://mail3.mcls.org/pipermail/michlib-l/attachments/20250430/aaa6d4b3/attachment.png>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: image002.png
Type: image/png
Size: 12580 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <http://mail3.mcls.org/pipermail/michlib-l/attachments/20250430/aaa6d4b3/attachment-0001.png>
More information about the Michlib-l
mailing list